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Quality Control

Hello all!  I’d like to get on a topic that been bothering for a couple years now that i think should be brought to light… mp3… the digital age, the download generation.

First and foremost, We live in exciting times indeed. Although, I’ll have to say it’s been nothing less than a struggle to surprise people these days. By that i mean, running out to different venues all over the world and playing for people sure has changed in the past 3 or 4 years. Before this YouTube / streaming media explosion… people were more in for surprises and one off’s from an artist due to the exclusivity and intimacy that only attending an event could provide…. so attending events, purchasing albums, and scouring the shops was the only means of obtaining the latest and greatest from your favorite artists.

Now, im sure im not telling you anything you didnt already know here… but i somehow feel the need to reiterate some of the finer points regarding the matter of this streaming media blitz…

Quite frankly, I kinda feel a bit bummed out that i would create something exclusive for my audiences to be “ripped” from some streaming media stie as is… moreso when the poster of the media would advertise or title it as “HD” or “High Quality” before it’s release date.

In fact, Nothing makes me vomit in my mouth more than listening to anything short of a 16bit 44.1kHz Wav / Aiff file… perhaps it’s just the audiophile in me… but i am actually witnessing and realizing for the first time in my life something that i have created that has been reduced to some regurgetated re-re-re-re-recording of a set and dubbed “high quality”… quite frankly im a little embarassed.

This isnt a rant about leaked tracks, piracy, copyright viloation, or severe lack of imagination, far from it. I am just trickling out a few little factoids that will hopefully point you towards being a more passionate listener.

for example, recently, as im sure you’ve noticed by now, i’ve churned out a few new songs to keep my shows a tad more interesting and evolving. FML, i think would be a suitable example.

in fact, here in front of me i have “deadmau5 – FML.wav” in all it’s glory. WAV, 32bit float, 192kHz

deadmau5 – FML
8m:09.889s
Wave IEEE float signed 32 bit,
192000Hz
12288Kbps, Stereo.
717 MB (752,472,064 bytes)

Funnily enough,  not even a 16bit 44.1 quality version of FML has left my hard drive… so unless you broke into my house and snagged it out of my cold dead hands, theres no “HQ” version floating about as far as im concerned….

that’s about as good as its goping to get in terms of “quality”… unfortunatley… 717 meg is a bit much when it comes to transferring for purposes other than mastering / remixing.

NOW HERE COMES THE SCIENCE.

alas, the file is then dithered (not resampled) down to 16bits and 44.1kHz (standard CD quality) for the masses / distribution. (with the exception that I dither to 24 bits / 48kHz for performances)…

so, situation happens… some guy records the set @ 16 bit 44.1kHz (usually the case)  you’ve got my 24 bit version coming out of my DAC (Digital to Analog Converter)  then in to someone elses ADC (Analog to Digital Converter) which is only as good as the quality of the ADC.. so already the quality of the music has been compromised, and you havent even gotten it yet.

Then, whoever records a direct line from the set then encodes that to 320kpbs MAX or 128 kbps mp3 for media streaming ease. this part is a MAAASSSIIIVEEE degradation of the original signal… and has been mulched to all bloody hell. So…. then what typically happens is yet ANOTHER DAC / ADC conversion…. wheres someone rips the audio from said streaming media outlet only to puke it back onto youtube… which is 128Kbps max in “HD” mode (which is a VERY far cry from HD if you ask me… total abuse of terminology there)  shoulda jujst called it ABBDBNR….”A Bit Better Definition But Not Really”.  fun times!  so… to break it down… lets take a quick look again…


Production / Final Master

degraded to 24 bits for live use

degraded to 16 bits for commerical release / distribution

degraded to 16 bits (less accurately) when recorded off a live feed from mixer via DAC / ADC

degraded to 128kbps / 320kbps when published for streaming media outlets

degraded to 128kbps / 320kbps when ripped from streaming media outlet

degraded to 64kbps / 128kbps
=
a very crappy 6th generation copy that magically gets called “HIGH QUALITY VERSION!!!111ONE!!” on youtube…. you figure it out.

Or as mr. Duda says:

“yeah more like Rendered from Ableton -> converted to Mp3 -> uploaded to myspace -> reconverted to worse mp3 -> ripped from your myspace -> converted to wav -> edited in Ableton again to run for 6 minutes -> converted to mp3 ->uploaded to Youtube -> reconverted with shiteaudio.dll” – nice one steve. :D

I just think it’s time for us listeners to listen smarter, to educate eachother a little more, give the audiable world out there a bit of a quality control attitude,  LISTEN UP folks… our hearing is really a fucking complicated and beautiful thing!!!  Why not use it well?  It’s like owning the most amazing sportscar and not a drop of gasoline on the planet…. Sometimes when i stick my ears out there, im really starting to fear that even the terminologic use of the words “high quality” is slowing substandardizing itself into an inaudiable heap of nonsense. If my message reaches at least one person, and benefits them in any way, i will die a happy mouse.

Azagedon said, on October 23rd, 2009 at 11:14 am

I have a question, what’s the highest bits the human ear can perceive the difference?
e.g could you hear the difference between 25bits compared to 16?

Gabriela said, on November 9th, 2009 at 12:21 am

My name is Gabriela Izarra and I’m a reporter and journalism student at the University of Florida. I’m a big fan, as well as a dance music lover. For a class I’m taking, Magazine and Feature Writing, we have to find a story with national (or in your case international) appeal, and submit it to a national magazine, such as Spin. I know you must be incredibly busy, but if you have time on Friday or at any point throughout your stay in Florida to talk to me for a little while about your music, please let me know. I live in Gainesville but I’d be more than happy to meet you in Ft. Lauderdale if you’re willing to grant me an interview. Anytime anywhere! I follow you on twitter and I’d love to actually get to talk to you..!! Here is a sample of my writing (I write for a local newspaper).

http://news.mywebpal.com/news_tool_v2.cfm?pnpID=956&NewsID=968993&CategoryID=15105&show=localnews&om=1

Please respond and let me know whether or not you’d be willing to see me. Thank you for your time!
Gaby Izarra

Max Peck said, on December 7th, 2009 at 12:52 am

i know this post is old as shit but id like to let you know that you can die a happy mou5 nao =P i read the post and have to say that its true the degradation of not only your music but the term HQ is really ruining human perception of what quality is and i cant stand it… 8y 7h3 w4y i5 7h3r3 4ny w4y i can h34 y0ur mu5ic 47 4 hi6h3r qu41i7y 7h4n 60in6 70 y0ur 5h0w5 i g07 7h3 cd’s 4nd s4w y0ur 1457 5h0w in h0u5t0n 73×45 bu7 n0w im curi0u5 wh4t y0ur pr0duc7i0n qu41i7y 50und5 1ik3 =P zomg 2much half assed 1337 im tired of typing nao =P

Ryan said, on January 4th, 2010 at 11:52 pm

First off, mad love. You’re extremely talented and I know you’ve worked hard to become so. I love your music.

But about “high quality”: It’s relative. Sure, your music sounds great at live shows. It’s mixed close to the source and it’s played over a sound system that costs more than most of the attendee’s homes.

Even in your home studio, you’re probably listening to your music on a pair of cans that have ultra-flux-capacitors and halogen-magnets and super-dynamic-gold-plated Sennheiser nameplates on them. But you are not your audience. Your audience is not you.

Your audience is listening to your music (and every other artist in the world) on a stock car stereo. Or maybe a modest home stereo. But more than both of those, they’re listening on an iPod and a $15 pair of Tawainese ear buds. And they’re listening on the subway, or in a noisy restaurant, or on a plane.

To them, “high quality” means that the bass isn’t thin and that the high hats don’t clip. If the dynamic range is slightly compressed, so much the better. That way they don’t need to fiddle with their volume knob as much. Widen the sound field slightly and boost the 20-40hz to make up for the crappy drivers and you’ve got a “high quality” recording.

It doesn’t matter if you think it’s low quality. You are not your audience. Your audience is not you.

I know you weren’t whining here. You’re just trying to educate people (”You better learn something about this music”). That’s cool, and hopefully people don’t take it as a Lars Ulrich rant. You don’t want to be like that guy – not with this generation of listeners. So who *do* you want to be like? Do you want to be a studio artist or a performer? If you want to be a performer, then spend your effort reinventing the music and don’t worry about the mixtapes. Embrace them. People want to hear you than they can legitimately get their hands on (”and you wonder why we took it underground”). Shit, if it were me, I’d start recording my performances to DAT@48 (clean track and separate crowd noise). Take it home, remaster it, let the audience ambience bleed through on the sickest breaks and release it as a free download on your site. Maybe charge $5 for really massive sets. That way YOU control the quality. And it’s way better than some other joker getting the credit (and the money) for your music. “This is OUR house. And OUR house music.”

For what it’s worth, I own[ed] a bunch of DJ Dan’s releases when I was more into the scene than I am now. I bought all of them. Loved the guy. You know what my favorite album is from him? A live set. How Sweet It Is – 1998. You know why it’s my favorite? Because “I was there, man. I was there when he dropped this break right here and the whole crowd was going apeshit, man! I looked across the room and saw this hot chick who was totally feeling it too. She looked at me. I looked at her. We both smiled. It was fucking awesome.”

You aren’t going to get that from a 16 bit 44.1khz WAV file in your studio.

Oh, and she’s my wife now =)

Again; mad love, much respect.
-Ryan

slybootz said, on February 11th, 2010 at 1:01 am

ASK FOR DEADMAU5 PERMISSION!

Peiman Beigbabai said, on April 27th, 2010 at 1:14 am

Keep up the good work.

Orri Sachar said, on May 19th, 2010 at 1:13 pm

hey dude!

i totally hear you on that. i think what you gotta realize is that sometimes it can be hard to wait and wait in anticipation for a track to be released. especially when all you have to listen to is a shitty youtube hackjob ripped from a video someone took on their phone. for example, your new mix for you need a ladder! from the moment i heard that track @ your coachella set i got hooked on that dirty baseline and just couldnt settle with the original version of the song cuz its just not nearly as hard. so after scouring the net for anything that remotely resembled what i am sure your fully mastered version sounds like, i had to settle with ripping a decent live version of the track, and cutting lopping, mixing…pretty much giving it the frankenstein treatment…in order to create the track. its kind of funny that i came on to this blog today of all days and read this article. see i was planning on putting the track out there for everyone to download…maybe throwing my name on it just like that beau damion guy did with your “Dub5tep” track just to gain some moderate recognition. i think you should be humbled that people would spend hours on their computer just trying to emulate a fraction of what you do…cuz thats pretty cool. listen dude you are the mau5! and your real fans, the ones who download the poor quality tracks, the live set rips, that scour the net for unreleased tracks and demos…we know whats up. i dont listen to the “october” live set rip (the one where the volume goes up and down mid track) and think oh shit joel is off his game. i think fuck i am stoked for him to come to the coliseum on july 10th!

HOWEVER

i do respect what you have to say…and i do respect you as an artist. so i will be keeping “sofi needs a ladder (orri edit)” to myself. im not too sure if you read these or not…but if you are interest in listening to my moderate interpretation of your song (just for a good laugh) send me an email n ill give you a link

keep it up mayn!

Orri Sachar
orrisachar@gmail.com

Saul Sparber said, on July 24th, 2010 at 8:31 am

Ears are indeed important — Just the reason why everyone should wear protective ear gear when attending Joel’s shows!

Chris Bowen said, on July 26th, 2010 at 7:10 pm

Excellent information here, and I totally agree that YouTube HD/HQ sucks b@lls compared to FLAC or any other “true” high quality sound. Any audiophile can tell the difference between 128kbps vs 320kbps vs 1440kbps. I prefer to get any audio file that I can find in at least 320kbps or higher.

My question is, do you offer your music in FLAC format anywhere? I’ve already downloaded a few albums off iTunes, but that quality is mediocre at best.

Thanks man, and keep up the amazing work.

Chris Bowen
chris.bowen02@gmail.com

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